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Company valuation – P/E, EV/EBITDA, ROE and DCF
A ratio without context is dangerous. A P/E of 8 can be expensive, a P/E of 30 cheap – it depends on growth, risk, balance-sheet structure and the quality of earnings. Advanced stock picking is not sorting a table from the lowest P/E upwards, it is understanding what a ratio measures, what its limitations are and when...
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Lesson 2: Ratios – P/E, EV/EBITDA, ROE, DCF
A ratio without context is dangerous. A P/E of 8 can be expensive, a P/E of 30 cheap – it depends on growth, risk, balance-sheet structure and the quality of earnings. Advanced stock picking is not sorting a table from the lowest P/E upwards, it is understanding what a ratio measures, what its limitations are and when using it in a plan is forbidden.
Lesson goal
You will understand the construction and the limitations of the four pillars of valuation: market multiples (P/E, EV/EBITDA), returns on capital (ROE/ROIC) and absolute valuation (DCF). You will learn to normalise them, compare them within a sector and tie them to risk measurement.
1. P/E – the price paid for 1 PLN of profit, but which profit?
P/E = Share price / Earnings per share (EPS)
P/E trailing = Price / sum of EPS over the last 12 months
P/E forward = Price / forecast EPS for the next 12 months
P/E adjusted = Price / EPS normalised for one-off events
Table of differences:
| P/E variant | Advantage | Drawback / Risk |
|---|---|---|
| Trailing | Factual, audited | May describe a past that will not repeat |
| Forward | Looks into the future | Depends on the quality of analyst forecasts, prone to revisions |
| Shiller P/E (10-year) | Smooths the cycle | Does not work well for growth companies or for companies after a transformation |
| Sector-relative P/E | Shows the premium/discount versus the industry | Requires a comparable group – at least 5-8 companies |
An advanced adjustment: P/E excluding net cash. If a company holds 30% of its market capitalisation in net cash, the effective operating P/E is lower. But that cash may be needed for CAPEX – do not adjust automatically.
2. EV/EBITDA – a valuation independent of the financing structure
EV (Enterprise Value) is the value of the whole enterprise, not just the part belonging to shareholders.
EV = Market capitalisation + Interest-bearing debt + Minority interests + Leases - Cash and equivalents
EBITDA = EBIT + Depreciation and amortisation
Adjusted EBITDA = EBITDA +/- one-off events +/- share-based compensation (SBC) – depending on the methodology
EV/EBITDA = EV / EBITDA over the last 12 months
| When EV/EBITDA beats P/E | When it fails |
|---|---|
| Comparing companies with different levels of debt | Companies with very high CAPEX – EBITDA ignores investment |
| Capital-intensive sectors (telecom, industry) | Companies with negative EBITDA – the ratio is useless |
| M&A transactions – valuing the whole business | Asset-light companies where depreciation is low – you overpay for the cash |
Measurement: compare EV/EBITDA only within a sector and against the 3-year median. A deviation >30% from the sector median requires a note in your plan: what you are paying a premium for (growth, margins, ROIC) or why there is a discount (balance-sheet risk, regulation).
Supporting formulas:
EV/Sales = EV / Revenue – useful when earnings are negative, but it does not show profitability
EV/EBIT = EV / EBIT – better than EV/EBITDA for companies with high depreciation
Net debt / EBITDA – a solvency test, not a valuation, but it filters EV/EBITDA
3. ROE, ROA, ROIC – how much the capital earns
ROE = Net profit / Average shareholders' equity
ROA = Net profit / Average total assets
ROIC = NOPAT / Invested capital
NOPAT = EBIT * (1 - effective tax rate)
Invested capital = Equity + Net debt - Non-operating cash + operating leases
| Ratio | What it measures | The trap |
|---|---|---|
| ROE | Return to the shareholder | Rises artificially through buybacks and high debt – check the leverage |
| ROA | Asset efficiency | Low in capital-intensive sectors – do not compare it with software |
| ROIC | Return on all invested capital | Closest to business quality, but it requires calculating the capital |
DuPont breaks ROE down:
ROE = (Net profit / Revenue) * (Revenue / Assets) * (Assets / Equity)
= Net margin * Asset turnover * Financial leverage
High ROE from margin and turnover = quality. High ROE from leverage alone = fragility. Measure the 3-year trend of ROIC versus WACC (the average cost of capital). If ROIC > WACC for 5 years – that is an edge; if not – you have overpaid for growth.
4. DCF – Discounted cash flow
DCF is not the oracle of valuation, only a tool for testing assumptions. Value = the sum of future FCF discounted back to today.
A simplified structure:
FCFF_t = EBIT_t * (1 - tax) + Depreciation_t - CAPEX_t - ΔWorking capital_t
Enterprise value = Σ FCFF_t / (1+WACC)^t + Terminal value / (1+WACC)^T
Terminal value (Gordon) = FCFF_{T+1} / (WACC - g)
Equity value = Enterprise value - Net debt
Value per share = Equity value / Diluted share count
| Parameter | How to estimate it on the GPW/US market | A beginner’s mistake |
|---|---|---|
| WACC | Weighted average of the cost of debt (after tax) and the cost of equity (CAPM) | A WACC of 20% for a WIG20 company – unrealistic; check the beta and the bond yield |
| g – growth into perpetuity | 1.5% - 3% nominal, below GDP growth | g = 5% forever = overvaluation |
| FCFF | From CFO, not from net profit | Ignoring the cyclicality of CAPEX |
| Beta | A 2-5 year regression against the index | For small GPW companies the beta is unstable – use a sector beta |
Instead of one number, build a range:
Conservative scenario: revenue growth 0-2%, EBIT margin -2 pp versus today
Base scenario: growth = sales consensus + inflation
Optimistic scenario: growth = 1.5x base, margin improvement of +1 pp
WACC range: e.g. 8%-11% for the GPW, 7%-10% for S&P 500 large caps
Your decision is not “DCF says 120 PLN, so I buy”. It is: “Under my assumptions of a 9.5% WACC and a 2.5% g, the market is pricing in revenue growth of 6% CAGR – is that achievable with the current balance sheet?”
5. Combining ratios into a decision system
Do not use ratios one at a time. An example of a filter matrix:
| Filter | Example threshold (calibrate it yourself) | Purpose |
|---|---|---|
| 3-year median ROIC | >10% | Quality |
| Net debt / EBITDA | <2.5 (industry) / <3.5 (telecom) | Balance-sheet safety |
| FCF conversion (CFO/EBIT) | >80% over 3 years | Earnings quality |
| EV/EBITDA vs the 3Y sector median | +/- 25% | Relative valuation |
| EPS dynamics – volatility | Standard deviation <35% | Predictability |
You have to measure every threshold against the history of the GPW sector versus the US – do not copy from the US to the GPW 1:1.
When the plan says “do not trade”
- You do not trade on a single ratio (e.g. a low P/E) without checking the balance sheet, CFO and ROIC.
- You do not trade cross-sector comparisons – the P/E of a bank and the P/E of a software company are not comparable.
- You do not trade when EPS is negative and a data provider shows the P/E as “averaged” – that is a data error.
- You do not trade a DCF when you do not understand what WACC is made of and have no sensitivity range for g and WACC.
- You do not trade a company where >50% of EBITDA is share-based compensation (SBC) added back without a dilution adjustment.
- You do not trade when EV/EBITDA is <4 but net debt/EBITDA is >4 and the company has covenants – a low multiple is a balance-sheet trap.
The mistakes that cost the most
- A low P/E = an opportunity. Most often a low P/E means the market sees falling EPS, balance-sheet risk, a one-off profit or a declining sector. Without checking CFO and the backlog, it is a selection error.
- Using GAAP and non-GAAP P/E interchangeably. US companies report non-GAAP EPS 20-40% higher (excluding SBC). Compare one measure consistently.
- A DCF with a single growth path. One number gives a false sense of precision. Always build a 3x3 sensitivity table (WACC vs g vs margin).
- Ignoring dilution in EV. The share count in the market capitalisation must be diluted (RSUs, options). Data providers often report the basic one.
- ROE calculated on negative equity or after write-downs. After a large goodwill write-down equity falls and ROE rises artificially. Check ROIC and ROA in parallel.
A measurable exercise
Pick a sector (e.g. game development on the GPW + the US, or food retail).
- Collect 8 companies from the sector and pull: market capitalisation, net debt, EV, EBITDA 12M, EPS TTM, the 12M EPS forecast, ROE, ROIC.
- For each one calculate: P/E TTM, P/E forward, EV/EBITDA, net debt/EBITDA, the 3-year median ROE.
- Calculate the sector median for each ratio and each company’s deviation from the median in %.
- Build a DCF sensitivity table for one company: WACC 8%, 9.5%, 11% vs g 1.5%, 2.5%, 3.5% – 9 valuations. Note under which assumptions the current market price is justified.
- Write down: which 2 companies have the highest quality by ROIC + cash conversion, and which have the lowest multiple because of balance-sheet risk.
Time: 120 minutes. Output: 1 comparison table + 1 DCF sensitivity table with a 5-sentence commentary on the assumptions.
Test yourself
- Why can EV/EBITDA be low while the company is close to insolvency?
- How does ROE differ from ROIC and when does ROE mislead you?
- What does negative EV mean and does the EV/EBITDA ratio make sense then?
- Why do you use FCFF in a DCF and not net profit?
- How would you adjust P/E when 40% of net profit in a given year comes from a one-off property sale?
Frequently asked questions
Can I compare the P/E of the GPW with the US directly? Only with an adjustment. Different interest rates, taxes, index structure and liquidity affect the market’s median P/E. Compare within a country and a sector.
What WACC should I assume for a small NewConnect company? Higher than for a WIG20 company – a premium for size and liquidity. In practice, add 2-4 pp to the WIG20 WACC as a model starting point, but test it with a range rather than a single number and write the assumption down in your plan.
Does DCF work for banks and insurers? Not in the FCFF version. For financial institutions you use a dividend discount model (DDM) or a residual income model (the surplus over the cost of capital). The P/BV multiple plus ROE is more stable there.
Negative EV/EBITDA – what do I do? The ratio is useless. Switch to EV/Sales and an analysis of cash, the burn rate and the path to profitability. Define a cash-loss limit in your plan.
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Key takeaways
- A ratio without context is dangerous. A P/E of 8 can be expensive, a P/E of 30 cheap – it depends on growth, risk, balance-sheet structure and the quality of earnings. Advanced stock picking is not sorting a table from the lowest P/E upwards, it is understanding what a ratio measures, what its limitations are and when...
Structure sources
The material is based on source documents. Variable values — fees, limits, regulatory figures — are worth checking at the source before making a decision.
- GPW — company reports (Warsaw Stock Exchange) — gpw.pl
- SEC EDGAR — US filings
Disclaimer
- Educational material. Not investment advice or a recommendation. Trading involves the risk of losing capital.
- The materials are educational. They are not investment advice or a recommendation within the meaning of financial instruments trading regulations. Numbers in examples are illustrative unless a measurement date and source are given.
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